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It’s Not the Occupation, Part II

In addition to what I wrote about Eugene Kontorovich’s excellent essay Israel, Palestine, and Democracy there are some parallel observations worth making.

Among other points, Kontorovich wrote:

This is no longer a dispute about democracy; it is a dispute about territory. The Palestinians have their own government; now their demand is to increase the geographic scope of their legislative powers to “Area C,” where 100 percent of the Jewish settlers live, some 400,000 people, and only 50-75,000 Arabs. The Palestinians want their “no Jew” law to apply there as well.

Palestinian self-determination is one of the biggest developments that no one has noticed. It is important to recall where it came from. It was a result of the Oslo process, and the withdrawal from Gaza. This created space for truly independent Palestinian government to arise.

The focus on settlements and occupation is a Palestinian tactic – adopted by much of the world. But the purpose of that focus is not to spur negotiations, but to pressure Israel to acquiesce to all Palestinian demands. Treating peace talks on an equal level – where each side is expected to gain something and to lose something as opposed to where one side does all the giving – stands a better chance of succeeding.

The Palestinians expecting only to receive concession without making sacrifices of their own launched a terror war against Israel in 2000, despite having committed to eschewing terror seven years earlier. Peace processors and advocates for the Palestinians gloss over that. But Israelis remembered.

Barry Rubin writes of a conversation he had with an acquaintance of his whom he assumed held strongly leftist views:

In the spring of 2001, I was friendly with a nice man, the father of my son’s friend. He was apolitical really, but his father had been a very high official of the Zionist-Marxist party (MAPAM). He had regularly voted for MAPAM or the Communist Party. By coincidence, we once ended up sitting next to each other on a flight.

I thought it would be interesting to discuss politics, which I had never done with him. After all, the Camp David meeting had failed (Yasir Arafat had refused the two-state solution and Israeli intelligence had recordings that he would never do it), and the violent second intifada was launched by Arafat with a Fatah-Hamas alliance of terrorism.

Anyway, to my surprise this soft-spoken real estate agent started screaming:

“Only [Ariel] Sharon! Only Sharon can save the country!”

Ariel Sharon promised to strike back at the terror and was elected as Prime Minister in February, 2001.

While such reactions are often dismissed as Israel “moving to the right,” the reaction was a perfectly rational approach to the betrayal of the peace process by the Palestinians. Arafat knew that such a betrayal would cost him and the Palestinian nothing. Despite rejecting a peace offer the previous summer, the peace plans still being discussed thirteen years later as he basis for an eventual peace settlement.

Which brings us to a recent observation by David Goldman:

To demand the 1948 armistice lines (the so-called 1967 borders) is to refuse any penalty for refusing to make peace in the past. That is the same as refusing any peace at all. Wars end when one side accepts defeat, and abandons the hope of restoring the status quo ante by force of arms. 1947 was a catastrophe (“Nakba”) for the Palestinian Arabs, to be sure, but it was a catastrophe of their own making; until they accept at least some degree of responsibility for the catastrophe, they will not be reconciled to any peace agreement. That is precisely what Palestine’s negotiator Saeb Erekat meant when he eschewed any recognition of Israel as a Jewish nation-state because “I cannot change my narrative.” The “narrative” is that the Jews are an alien intrusion into the Muslim Middle East and eventually must be eliminated by one means or another.

It’s astonishing that after having rejected peace offers three times the Palestinians, “everyone knows” that a final settlement will look like … the offers that they rejected. Again, the Palestinians know not only do they not pay a price for violating their agreements; they don’t pay a price either for rejecting peace offers.

If the Palestinians knew that they’d get less territory for every terror attack or every time they rejected a final peace offer, they would have come to an agreement by now. But instead, lured by the promise of an internationally condemned Israel they seek all they can knowing that only Israel will be blamed for their being no peace.

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  1. Yoel Larry
    Dec 24, 2013 @ 14:07:50

    The Evil genie is out of the Bottle. It all began in 1967 when the Israeli Forces reclaimed all of Jerusalem but in a moment of weakness and misguided secular-Jewish largesse decided to allow the Muslim’s Al Aksa Mosque to remain undisturbed on Temple Mount. Temple Mount is a Spiritual Vortex, given to the Jewish Nation to safeguard by the Holy ONE, the Omnipotent Force of all Forces in the Universe, with strict instructions as to what is allowed and forbidden on this most Awesome and powerful Spiritual Powerplant on planet earth. The Jewish People have no Spiritual claim to the Holy Land when they do not fulfill their ‘part of the bargain’, that is, their G-d given responsibility under the Covenant to serve as
    Custodians of the Mount. In effect, fulfilling that responsibility, more than any historical claims or ‘legal’ titles of ownership is what gives legitimacy to the Jewish possession of Jerusalem and the Holy Land.
    On a deep and subconscious spiritual level this truth is felt if not understood not only by the European Union and United Nations but particularly by our half brothers in the Muslim world who have rightfully concluded the weakness and spiritual faithlessness of the Jewish Nation in spurning G-d’s Will. Their fraudulent possession of Temple Mount and the Israeli Government’s complicity in reinforcing of this fraud by officially forbidding any Jewish prayer or even for Jews to set foot there has caused a world-shattering metaphysical imbalance, a short-circuit so to speak.
    Since 1967 the cancer of Radical Islam has metastasized world-wide, threatening every civilization with physical and spiritual destruction. The 9-11 attacks, Islamic unrest and Sharia in Europe, everywhere Islam has a presence, the dread and unspeakable menace of two nuclear armed Islamic States, Pakistan and soon Iran just to name a very few nightmares. Is this a coincidence? Is it a coincidence that all three major religions hold Jerusalem as sacred ground to be fought and died for? A coincidence that Jerusalem is never mentioned in Islam’s holiest book, Koran, yet thousands of times in Jewish Scripture!
    The truth is that nothing can stop this Cancer from spreading. Not Armed forces, Drone assassinations, Civil laws or security checkpoints. Not even the false panacea of a ‘successful’ political settlement with Arab Palestinians in Judea/Samaria for ‘Palestinian’ Statehood there will turn the tide and return the ‘Genie’ to the ‘box’. Those are nothing but band-aids on soon-to-be terminal cancer. And more and more as the nations of the world, including formerly friendly ones in European Capitols and Washington D.C. Quietly have begun to openly question the merits, even the ‘legitimacy’ of the Jewish State, the situation facing Israel has become dire. Far worse than Iranian nukes is this other threat. Sadly, more and more American Jews have come to question Israeli status in that region. The BDS movement grows on American University campuses, most troubling as it now includes growing numbers of young liberal Jewish students, men and women.
    Militarily, politically, philosophically, morally …Israel is becoming weakened on many fronts. It is not certain the Jewish State can survive much longer under the expanded front.
    Unless…The Jewish Nation will do what should have been done in 1967. Remove the Al Aksa from Temple Mount. Restore the balance to the Spiritual Vortex as was intended by the Holy ONE. There Is No Other Way. Yes, it will be painful. The region and world will bleed with Muslim fury and world-violence. For a while. And then, the cancer will die as the Genie of Spiritual imbalance is returned to the Bottle. There Is No Other Way. And Time Is Running Out.


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